Relocating to Denver? Exploring the Neighborhoods of Highlands and LoHi, Two of Denver’s Most Popular Neighborhoods

John Wilkinson (00:01)
Kenda quick gut check before we actually get into the episode. LoHi or Highlands which would you choose?

Kenda Ruck (00:10)
okay. That is a trick question. That is not

fair because you know that they're kind of the same thing. So I don't think that's a fair question.

John Wilkinson (00:18)
Exactly. Well that's what this episode's all about. It's you know, knowing the difference between all of those areas, the history, kind of where it is today, who fits better to what neighborhood, and whether, that neighborhood is right for you. And interestingly, somebody told us that Highlands and LoHi are the most searched neighborhoods for people who are relocating to Denver.

Kenda Ruck (00:40)
It's fascinating to me. I would think people would be typing in Denver, but LoHi and Highlands is the number one place

John Wilkinson (00:46)
Exactly.

Kenda Ruck (00:46)
that they're look so I think we're gonna be able to hopefully answer a lot of questions for people. I'm not super familiar with the area, but we're gonna kinda just figure it out as we go and that's the best thing about this podcast.

John Wilkinson (00:58)
That's right. So welcome to Getting Real Estate with a Living Colorado team. this podcast is all about what it's like to actually live in Colorado, not just listing photos and all of the marketing jumble that that you may hear from other agents, but what it's like to actually move here, live here, and experience it. And I'm John Wilkinson.

Kenda Ruck (01:17)
And I'm Kenda Ruck and we do our best to give you the real deal. We don't want to add any fluff. We just want to tell you what we found out about different areas as we learn them and we experience them. So thanks so much for joining us today.

John Wilkinson (01:30)
Yeah, so interestingly with Highlands, LoHi, you know, a lot of people actually lump this together. And I have friends that live, you know, in LoHi. They love it there. And I've always heard Highlands as well and thought, you assumed it was the same place. But it's actually,

Kenda Ruck (01:46)
I did too.

John Wilkinson (01:46)
yeah, it's actually different places. And and LoHi is is a very narrow area of the Highlands. And it's the area that's actually closest to downtown.

And shockingly, there's a bridge, right? There's a pedestrian bridge that connects LoHi to downtown. So it makes it very walkable. And so that's the difference with LoHi. So but we're gonna talk about

Kenda Ruck (02:10)
That's kind of the boundary, right?

Is that right? Yeah. Okay.

John Wilkinson (02:12)
Yeah, exactly. The Platte River,

right, is right there in in in the on the east side of downtown. And so this is LoHi is right on the other side of the river. And Highlands, obviously, as you continue west is is where there's gonna be larger lots and all that. So we're gonna talk about a little bit about what areas of Highlands and LoHi are best for certain types of buyers.

Kenda Ruck (02:35)
Let me ask you a a separate question because one of the things that confused me when I first moved here was I heard LoHi and I heard RiNo

John Wilkinson (02:42)
Yes.

Kenda Ruck (02:43)
So and I knew they were abbreviations for things, but now I'm learning that LoHi is lower Highlands. But what is RiNo Do you know?

John Wilkinson (02:51)
Yep, RiNo is River North. So

the

Kenda Ruck (02:54)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (02:54)
North neighborhood of the Red Platte River. And it's more kind of the arts district, if you will. So there's a lot of lofts, bungalows, there's just a lot of restaurants and businesses and lots of fun things that that make RiNo really, really special. Exactly.

Kenda Ruck (03:10)
Pubs and things like that because I heard people

go on beer crawls in RiNo. So I was like, Okay, a beer

John Wilkinson (03:15)
That's right.

Kenda Ruck (03:16)
crawl in RiNo. I don't know what that means, but

John Wilkinson (03:19)
Yeah. RiNo is definitely a dense neighborhood. So there's a lot of

Kenda Ruck (03:21)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (03:22)
multifamily living, some townhomes, but multi-family condos, things like that. There's not a lot of single family residential options. There are some homes still there, but largely those are getting purchased and redeveloped into something larger.

Kenda Ruck (03:36)
Okay, that makes sense. And then I I know that Highlands and LoHi. we've talked about this so many times on the podcast before. different areas in Denver are so different. They have their own personalities.

John Wilkinson (03:48)
Very.

Kenda Ruck (03:50)
So there is a very distinct difference between Highlands and LoHi. So let's talk a little bit about first,

who would live in either place and let's kinda give them like personalities kind of and who would fit in each little area.

John Wilkinson (04:06)
That's a great question. So the Highlands is kind of this umbrella term. And in that, like you mentioned, there's LoHi, there's West Highland, Porter Highlands, and Highland Square. LoHi is going to be the person who will trade off a yard for a rooftop deck. It's

Kenda Ruck (04:24)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (04:25)
definitely some you know, there's t there's townhomes that are being built that have rooftop decks, there's condo developments, apartment communities, a lot of great restaurants,

Very walkable. Yep. Street it's right across the bridges is from downtown. So you could actually walk downtown, and have dinner and come back, or stay in LoHi and do the same. And then the other neighborhoods have larger yards. It's where you want to go walk to 32nd street, have dinner and then go back to your yard versus going to a bar. Right. So more probably family oriented. Yep, exactly.

Kenda Ruck (04:54)
Okay. Go sit on your front porch and yeah. Okay.

John Wilkinson (04:59)
And and you still

have very close access to all of the everything urban, right? That you you're very close to that, but you're yet still removed enough where you can kind of have the best of both worlds.

Kenda Ruck (05:10)
Okay. Okay. So let's like take a little blast to the past and kind of talk a little bit about the history because we had Steve Turner, the historian, on our podcast before and he was walking us through the Larimer area. So I love like going back and looking at okay, how did these towns develop? So we had

Highlands and Denver, they were separate. Is that di did I is that correct?

Okay. Okay. Okay.

John Wilkinson (05:35)
That's right. That's right. Yep. Yep. The town of Highlands. Yep. Yeah, exactly.

And Larimer, you mentioned Laramore. So it was a guy named William Larimer. in eighteen fifty-eight. He actually founded the city of Denver.

And then he is the guy who first claimed, he made the first claim to the Highlands back in 1858.

Kenda Ruck (05:56)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (05:58)
So Larimer Square was, you know, William Larimer. and he didn't develop the town, but Highland Town Company picked it up in 1859, and that's how it started becoming a rival settlement almost to Denver.

Kenda Ruck (06:13)
So they were kind of competing and then from what I remember reading, Highland kind of was like an HOA that was not sustaining itself. Is that right? They had they couldn't

John Wilkinson (06:22)
Yeah. That's right.

Kenda Ruck (06:24)
like pay for the resources. They kinda ran out of money, right?

John Wilkinson (06:27)
Yeah, those fools were like, I want to stay here. This is my own city, but Denver, give me your water, give me your trash services, all that. And

Kenda Ruck (06:33)
That's right. Right.

John Wilkinson (06:35)
and Denver said, no, no, no. yeah.

Kenda Ruck (06:37)
Nope, nope, nope.

John Wilkinson (06:39)
And then the voters approved the annexation of Highlands by Denver. And so that's when it been that was like in 1896, when

Kenda Ruck (06:47)
Wow.

John Wilkinson (06:48)
they for they joined forces and became, you know, part part of Denver.

Kenda Ruck (06:53)
And now they're kind of like one big like they're kind of well, you mentioned the umbrella, you know, of Highlands

John Wilkinson (06:59)
Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (06:59)
that covers all of it. Denv they're kinda under the umbrella of Denver. Is that great? Okay, okay. Okay.

John Wilkinson (07:03)
Yeah, exactly. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, it's

very cool. Yeah, and then you mentioned in an earlier podcast about things to do, or maybe it was a a a blog that we wrote about Elich Gardens and

Kenda Ruck (07:20)
Yes.

John Wilkinson (07:20)
the history there, which I think is great. So it's not only something great to do here in Denver, but also part of our city's history.

Kenda Ruck (07:29)
Yeah, I grew up in Florida and we had Bush gardens. So when I heard Elich Gardens, I was like, that does not sound like or six flags, like they had fun names, but the big amusement park here is Elich Gardens. And

John Wilkinson (07:43)
Sure.

Kenda Ruck (07:43)
I was wondering kind of where that came from, why they picked that name. But I read that John and Mary Elich bought a sixteen acre farm there in eighteen

87 and they opened the Elich Zoological Gardens and the Grand Pavilion there in 1890. Like

John Wilkinson (08:02)
Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (08:03)
that has been around forever. And that there's an Elich theater building that is actually it's still standing today, which

John Wilkinson (08:11)
Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (08:11)
is so super cool. But now there's like

John Wilkinson (08:13)
I know.

Kenda Ruck (08:13)
an amusement park with roller coaster rides and all sorts of entertainment. Have you been?

John Wilkinson (08:20)
Yeah,

I actually I actually asked Hayden, my son, I was like, hey, you know, for a summer job you could go work at Elich Gardens. He was like, No way. You know, it's like so hot. Like, man, I worked at Waterworld

Kenda Ruck (08:28)
He said no.

John Wilkinson (08:31)
USA in Sacramento, California. It was the

best. I mean, all I did was rent tubes to people all day long, but it was so fun. We had a great time doing it. So yeah, this Elich Gardens is kind of like that. You know, it's like a smaller amusement

Kenda Ruck (08:33)
Right. Yeah. So fun. So fun. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't he's not interested. Okay.

John Wilkinson (08:44)
park and yeah, the history there is kind of amazing.

Kenda Ruck (08:46)
Yeah, I've been to Ball Arena multiple times for sports games and I always look over and see this like this amusement park right in the middle of Denver. And I always wondered what that was. So it's pretty cool to learn the history of that. And the other thing that is in that area is the REI building, And tell us a little bit about the history of that.

John Wilkinson (09:05)
Yeah, I love it. Man,

we've gone yeah, we've gone there so many times and I had no idea, but apparently it used to be the boiler building for the Denver Tramway Company. So they say like before REI you know warmed hikers, the building actually warmed all of the trams or the the trolleys that were going around Denver at the time. So

Yeah, that's that makes sense because like there's these big, you know, doors in that building and that's where the trams used to come in to get warmed up, you know, because unlike last winter, Denver actually does have winters and it does get cold sometimes. So

Kenda Ruck (09:41)
Right.

John Wilkinson (09:42)
you know, I could see why that would be necessary. And you know, global warming, you know, but hello. Whatever. Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (09:46)
Yeah, well yeah, unfortunately.

John Wilkinson (09:48)
Yeah, so no, that's actually kinda cool. And I didn't know that. I've been there hundreds of times, not hundreds of times, fifty times, you know, getting things for

Kenda Ruck (09:54)
There a lot.

John Wilkinson (09:54)
for skiing or whatever, and had no idea. So it's kind of a cool thing, and that's right there in the LoHi area.

Kenda Ruck (10:02)
Yeah, and they moved, REI moved in in like the late 90s, I think. So that's been there a while. So it's kind of cool.

John Wilkinson (10:09)
Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (10:10)
and then going back again historically a little bit, Italian people and Mexican people were the ones who kind of settled in the Highlands area. They're the ones that kind of got it going. and so I

Would love to hear you talk because you're the best at knowing good restaurants, about some of the restaurants and the great food that you can get in the Highlands and the LoHi Area that really kind of keeps true to the people who settled there.

John Wilkinson (10:44)
Yeah, you know, I that's one thing I love about Denver in particular. There are s many cities in the US that have held on to their history. And but there's there's others who, you know, demolish things that are old in order to bring something new, which

You know, there's 50% of people feel one way, the other 50% feel another way. But I love that they've held on to the history. And a lot of them did, like you'd mentioned, built a lot of these original commercial, strips and areas around there. But I think one of the most photographed businesses in LoHi has to be Little Man Ice Cream. It has a 28-foot

cream

can building basically and there's lines always out the door. The best ice cream, but it is iconic right here in the city.

Kenda Ruck (11:33)
Are they the ones that deliver that you went and get you went and got the ice cream from? Okay. Okay.

John Wilkinson (11:37)
that's that's Sad Boy Creamery, which we'll talk about for sure. But that's that's actually

opening its first brick and mortar on Colfax near City Park, in Denver East

Kenda Ruck (11:46)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (11:46)
High School. But Little Man Ice Cream, they have other pocket, there's one in Sherry Creek north as well. But the original over in LoHi is is is iconic. And you go at night, you know, like for dinner and you'll see families and kids walking around with ice cream. There's there's lines

Kenda Ruck (12:00)
Yes.

John Wilkinson (12:01)
of people waiting to get ice cream. it's just kind of a fun thing, you know, to do.

But also Alma

Kenda Ruck (12:06)
I love that.

John Wilkinson (12:08)
Fonda Fina, amazing Mexican, Michelin-starred Mexican restaurant. It was actually just named, a list came out, they named the top 41 Mexican restaurants in the country. And that was one of them here in Colorado. The other

Kenda Ruck (12:21)
Well.

John Wilkinson (12:21)
one was El Diablo, which is not in LoHi, but just want to give them a shout out.

Kenda Ruck (12:25)
Yeah.

John Wilkinson (12:25)
But alma

fondafina, great. Definitely need reservations to get in unless you wanna wait for the first come, first served patio kind of seating if the you know the weather's nice. there's Uncle, which is ramen, Spertino Italian-inspired kind of restaurant.

and then Highlands has Root Down, which is Farm to Table, and Duo, which is New American. There's a lot. There's so many different great restaurants in there. You know, I think it it would be fun may you know in a future episode, maybe we talk about some of the great restaurants. and

Kenda Ruck (12:56)
Mm-hmm.

John Wilkinson (12:56)
do like a food tour for a month or something where you go for lunch or for dinner. I think that'd be good really cool. Yeah. Yeah. So those

Kenda Ruck (13:00)
I'm down for that. I love the idea. I love that.

John Wilkinson (13:05)
there's I mean, there's amazing places and all of a lot of these, you know, from the Mexican Italian immigrants that came in, obviously they

have left their mark on on the area and it continues.

Kenda Ruck (13:15)
so if somebody is one of the many, many people who are thinking about moving to the Denver area and they're

they're searching Highlands or LoHi. Let's talk some numbers specifically about first of all what kind of opportunities there are for living

quarters, whether they be townhomes or these older Victorian homes. let's talk a little bit about yard size and things like that and what it would cost somebody. So maybe, maybe we start with LoHi and

John Wilkinson (13:51)
Sure.

Kenda Ruck (13:52)
talk about the costs for a a dwelling there.

John Wilkinson (13:55)
Yeah, so like we mentioned LoHi is definitely more townhomes, condos. It's it's it's denser kind of

Kenda Ruck (14:01)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (14:01)
building area. those are starting around $950k and granted, this is from 2020,

Kenda Ruck (14:07)
For a condo.

John Wilkinson (14:08)
yeah, 2026 numbers right now for for townhomes, condos. You know, the detached Victorians that that you were talking about, once they're fully restored, that's really pushing about 1.5 million. And obviously there's gonna be pockets.

Kenda Ruck (14:19)
Wow. Yeah. But they have yards

and

John Wilkinson (14:23)
I mean Victorian, they have s they have smaller yards. like LoHi's a a really narrow strip of area. So a lot of these older buildings, some of them like these old Santa Fe's from eighteen nineties, these square, you know, Santa Fe kind of a stucco homes,

Kenda Ruck (14:38)
Yeah.

John Wilkinson (14:38)
can be around $750k or so when

Kenda Ruck (14:41)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (14:41)
restored, maybe a little bit north of that. so it just depends on kind of what you're looking for. And then but yet those don't have large yards, whereas,

Highlands overall may be different.

Kenda Ruck (14:52)
Yeah. So so LoHi is pricier and denser.

John Wilkinson (14:55)
Mm-hmm.

Kenda Ruck (14:56)
Maybe more for a person who doesn't want to deal with a yard. They want to sit on the rooftop, have their wine, walk, you know, that kind of thing. And then Highlands is

a little bit less expensive, still not cheap.

It's pricey, but it's a little

John Wilkinson (15:08)
Right. Right.

Kenda Ruck (15:10)
bit less expensive and you're gonna have a bigger footprint of your home. Is that

John Wilkinson (15:14)
Yeah, exactly.

You're not going to the rooftop to have your wine, you're going to your front yard or porch to have some wine, hang out with friends.

Kenda Ruck (15:19)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (15:20)
Yeah, so it's kind of that vibe. But yet it's still pretty close to like everything that Highlands in general offers. And then also you're close to Union Station still. if you wanted to get downtown Denver and do all the things that are available, in downtown Denver. So that kind of lends to the price that you were talking about. It's, you know, larger areas, but still pricey, but pricey because location.

Kenda Ruck (15:42)
And I really like r going back to the Steve Turner episode, which was so much fun.

He walked us down there and it was like, wow, that is it's so cool to to go inside and look at those wooden benches where people used to sit to catch

John Wilkinson (15:57)
Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (15:57)
the trains and that that's it's such a

a great landmark and to know that the Highlands and the LoHi are kinda in that general area that really helps me visualize where it's located and in that part of town. So we need to have him back.

John Wilkinson (16:15)
Yeah, literally,

yeah, you've been to to Rockies Games and Broncos games, right? So but it the Rockies at you know Coors Field is literally just on the other side of

Kenda Ruck (16:23)
Yeah.

John Wilkinson (16:24)
the Platte River, you know, from LoHi. So when you're

Kenda Ruck (16:28)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (16:28)
over there, you can see, you know, obviously downtown and Coors Field and and you know all of that. So the REI building obviously is right there as well.

Kenda Ruck (16:38)
Okay, okay. That helps me know exactly where it is. you know, when you first move to a a new place, everything just feels kind of a little bit overwhelming with having to learn everything. And especially here in Denver, there are so many different segments of w who who would want to live in a a specific location. But what it's sounding like is that maybe LoHi is for maybe

Like young professionals And maybe people who want the Victorian style homes might might be a little bit more open to driving to or commuting to work. Does that sound correct?

John Wilkinson (17:16)
Yeah,

I think so. Maybe empty nesters too. I think it's kind of just a lifestyle, right? If you're looking for less maintenance in terms of a yard, right? The trees, all of the things that you have to do when you have a yard and trees. that's that's going to be kind of the lifestyle choice for folks who want to be near downtown, not in downtown. But LoHi is some great like talk about food and culture. You know, we mentioned earlier the the restaurants, you know, that are there.

It is it's chopped full of great places that kind of prove that it's not trendy. You know, there's there's there's a cheese shop called St. Killian's Cheese Shop on Lowell that's opened in 2001. I mean, that proves the neighborhoods aren't like just a trend. It's been building for a long time and it's very stable. So these places open up and they they stay there and it kind of has this vibe of like.

I don't know, I don't wanna say Boston's like north end, right? Where it's like older buildings and but yet you have these newer amenities, newer places. It kinda has that vibe where it's like smaller, narrower streets and a lot of activity.

You know, it's

Kenda Ruck (18:27)
Okay.

John Wilkinson (18:27)
it's it's tough to park, so be prepared if you're going, you know, give yourself some time to park because there's not a lot of there's street parking, there are parking lots, but they're not huge. you know, so just plan that accordingly. But there's such a great vibe and culture in LoHi, and highland Highlands in general, right? It's just there's there's very unique kind of aspects to it.

Kenda Ruck (18:49)
And who doesn't love a good cheese? I mean

John Wilkinson (18:51)
my gosh. Hello. Yeah, I know. Yes.

Kenda Ruck (18:53)
Like give me a good charcuterie over board over

a meal any day. I'm happy to just munch on the cheese.

John Wilkinson (19:00)
Yeah, and

like the L5, there's a the L5 down there has an amazing rooftop, with great views of downtown and super popular. So that if if there's a place that you want to go check out, you know, have some drinks, appetizers, whatever, L5 is amazing. there's fun people watching, you know, it's just it's just a good vibe, especially on the great, you know, days of weather that we get here in Denver.

Kenda Ruck (19:24)
I'm kind of sensing a theme in our podcasts when we talk about different areas. it's it's not where do I want to live, it's what kind of life do I want. And I s

John Wilkinson (19:36)
Totally.

Kenda Ruck (19:37)
I see that over and over again with all of these different areas that we highlight so that people can understand the differences.

This is a specific kind of lifestyle that's right for a specific kind of person. So I think one of the things we always say is don't just look for an area. Like think about how do I want my life to look? How do I want my evenings to look? How do I want my weekends to look? And then you can look a little bit more closely at kind of where you should land and start looking for your home in that way.

John Wilkinson (20:13)
It's so interesting. I love that you said that because in Austin, when you're working with a buyer and you're trying to profile and figure out kind of what's the best place, you know, that to to land them, there are generally like areas that you can get a feel for what they're looking for, but a lot of the neighborhoods are kind of homogenous in that there's

Kenda Ruck (20:37)
Mm-hmm.

John Wilkinson (20:37)
not

these unique kind of walk to restaurants or or bars or or shops places. Whereas Denver has these great neighborhoods and all of them have their own unique kind of vibe and shops area shopping area and restaurants and and

You're right. And then it also can be, or do you want an outdoor, you know, lifestyle? Right. And so that

Kenda Ruck (21:01)
Right.

John Wilkinson (21:01)
helps determine those things. I I do love that about Denver. And it is here when we work with buyers. I know we ask a lot of times, you know, what are you interested in doing? What kind of pulls you? What are you looking for? Do you want a yard or not a yard? You know, those things are all questions that, you know, are unique for here.

Kenda Ruck (21:20)
And and it helps them determine where they want to end up because there's more to it than just I want to be close to my job. Last week we

John Wilkinson (21:27)
Sure.

Kenda Ruck (21:27)
interviewed somebody on the podcast who's planning to move to Denver. And one of the things that we made sure to ask her was, Well, what do you want to do? What do you want access to? And for her, she is big into the outdoor life. She wants to be able to get into the mountains quickly. She wants to

be able to go hike and ride her bike and that kind of thing. So for her, you know, it it looks like Golden in in that area might be perfect for her. So I think that that's one of the things that surprised me the most about moving here is how different these little pockets are. And I think if anybody is thinking about, okay, I want to move to Denver, you know, it's worth having a conversation with us about

Hey, these are the things, this is how I picture my life. This is how I structure my weekends. This is what I want to work and come home from work, and this is what I want to do. And I think we can really speak to, you know, after we hear what they want their their life to look like, we can really speak to what area might be a a good solution for them. They may not have ever thought about LoHi, or they may not have ever thought about Golden, but I think.

it's it's worth reaching out to us and and talking through some of these these specific questions about what you want your life to look like.

John Wilkinson (22:55)
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean that's what makes that's what makes us good at our job, but it's also we care about people and and their happiness and and that they love, Denver, Colorado as much as as we do and

from my friends that live in LoHi, they love it, right? And people that live in Highlands proper, they love that. It's it's the question of do you want to walk to dinner or do you want a porch? Right? That's

Kenda Ruck (23:18)
Right.

John Wilkinson (23:18)
the difference between the two and and it's that's kind of like c talking about the the differences between the two.

Kenda Ruck (23:26)
Yep, that's awesome.

John Wilkinson (23:27)
yeah yeah, so a little rapid rapid trivia for you, rapid fire trivia. I know, see if we've a little test.

Kenda Ruck (23:31)
Is this a test? Am I gonna be tested?

John Wilkinson (23:34)
So what year did Highland get annexed by Denver?

Kenda Ruck (23:38)
it was eighteen ninety something. Is that right? 1896 okay.

John Wilkinson (23:41)
Very good. 1896. Yeah,

great, great, great, great. what

Kenda Ruck (23:45)
Okay. What's it?

John Wilkinson (23:46)
was the REI building before it was REI?

Kenda Ruck (23:50)
Ooh, that was the warming station for the tr trolley cars. Is that right? Okay. See, I do pay attention. I do listen. Yes.

John Wilkinson (23:54)
That's right. That's right. Yep. Street the streetcar system. You are paying attention. That's right.

So an Elich Gardens opened in what year?

Kenda Ruck (24:03)
I even said that earlier. I think was it 1896? 1890. Okay. That's what I wanted to say, but then the six just popped out. So technically May 1st. Wow. Okay. Hey, we need to go

John Wilkinson (24:07)
Very 1890. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's good. That's good. Yeah. May 1st to be precise. May 1st, 1890. Yeah. May 1st to be pre.

Kenda Ruck (24:19)
there.

John Wilkinson (24:20)
I know that would be super fun. I think you're I think we should definitely do that. I mean, you know,

Kenda Ruck (24:21)
Yeah, we need to go there. And we need to get Hayden a job there.

John Wilkinson (24:25)
they probably would laugh at us given our ages, you know, on the roller coaster, but but whatever. Like we're young at heart. okay, so

Kenda Ruck (24:28)
Probably. That's right.

John Wilkinson (24:34)
now so

actually now you know the difference now. So would you pick Highlands or LoHi?

Kenda Ruck (24:40)
I would pick Highlands. I think I would like the Victorian

John Wilkinson (24:46)
Okay.

Kenda Ruck (24:47)
I like the front porch. I'm I'm a Georgia girl. I w I like the front porch better than the rooftop. What about you?

John Wilkinson (24:53)
Yeah, great question. I I think I'm torn. Like I think after Hayden graduates, today I'd be Highlands. In two

Kenda Ruck (25:02)
Mm-hmm.

John Wilkinson (25:02)
years I'd probably be LoHi. If we don't have any pets. Because I don't want to walk the pets out of the building when it's nine degrees outside. I don't want that. Yeah.

Kenda Ruck (25:05)
That's the beauty. That's right. up and down the elevator? No. No. No. Hey,

there are people for that, John. Yeah, you have to hire somebody.

John Wilkinson (25:15)
That's right, that's right. So anyway, this is

this has been great. I know next week, Kenda we're gonna be talking about some fall travel ideas, day trips around Denver. I know it's getting into leaf peeping season here and I know, I know, I love it too.

Kenda Ruck (25:30)
My favorite time of year. I love it so much. I've already decorated

my house with fall things. You can see my little picture of the witch up there. Yeah, I already have all my Halloween.

John Wilkinson (25:38)
yeah, fun. Very fun. I know I can't wait. I can't

wait to go get pumpkins put on my porch. I'm a Highlands person

Kenda Ruck (25:44)
Yes.

John Wilkinson (25:45)
right now. I don't live in Highlands, but I have a porch. So like yeah,

Kenda Ruck (25:48)
You have a port.

John Wilkinson (25:48)
I can't wait to put you know the pumpkins out there. But I think that'll be a fun episode. and then I think the next week we have a really fun episode coming up, so people need to stay tuned for that. So just a little teaser

Kenda Ruck (25:59)
Yeah.

John Wilkinson (25:59)
for that.

Kenda Ruck (26:00)
I'm very excited about that. That's gonna be a lot of fun. So

John Wilkinson (26:03)
Yep.

Kenda Ruck (26:03)
well, thank you so much for watching. If you're thinking about moving to the Denver area, please reach out to us. We would be absolutely thrilled to talk to you and kind of figure out where what what part of town you might wanna land in.

John Wilkinson (26:17)
That's right, exactly. Thanks everybody for listening. hit subscribe to follow along and share this with other folks. We'd really appreciate it. I'm John Wilkinson.

Kenda Ruck (26:25)
Yeah, and check out our website.

We've been doing a lot of work on our website. So it's looking really good.

John Wilkinson (26:28)
We have.

We have. That's exactly right. Yeah, so I'm John Wilkinson and work hard, be kind.